This is an upvote with a bit of a caveat. Your description of the "Industrious and ignorant" was spot on. Thanks for citing the source however controversial. Which gets us to my caveat point: even the ignorant and industrious may teach us something. There is a need to listen and watch. The wise collect information from many sources.

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